Hi all,
I read the forum and other websites the last day, as I talked with a friend of a friend here in Cebu. (Im a foreigner living here) He came over this other guy 5 years ago.
In Short, landowner in Leyte found 585 bars some years ago, marked with sumatra 99.99, 6 inches long, 2 wide, 1.5 high, weight 6.2kg.
Im not blind and knows there is a world of scams out there and here hehe. I seen some pictures of bars and a budha but pics isnt worth much.
The farmers that owned the land discovers the treasure in a cave, some years laters one of the family pawns one bar, for 300.000Pesos, with my friends (A) friends(B) boss (C), due to some (cockfight gambling reasons whatever). After 3 days due time was up and the boss kept the gold bar.
B and C got this bar tested afterwards in a hotel room and the results showed it was real.
Now, This family want to sell out all or bigger parts, due to the fact they are still poor and also scared for their lives. B told me that the family once sold 50 grams in a shop and after that people start talking and they felt like being watched, and this is the reason they dont sell more than minimum needed. Everything is corrupt here and you die for less than a dollar, its understandable.
My main point. Im not a treasure hunter nor have I any experience. B wants me to meet 1 or 2 of the family and have it tested etc at my preferred location, for my own safety reasons. He agreed they can bring 4 bars and I can drill them wherever I want due to acid testing and so on. I still dont believe this is real bars but I never read any scam involving drilling or cutting the bar before purchase. I read some telling that one get scammed by getting edges for testing but the inside of the bar is fake etc.
Could anyone advice me on this. As I see it, if its real wohoo, if its not, they will be caught (I have a few highly placed friends here). Anyways, I dont have the funds to buy any so any advice on that one aswell?
thx
andymar
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 07:18:47 AM
Note* Could mod move this place to the right spot? Sorry about that
andymar
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 07:58:40 AM
I totally agree. I can have it brought here or go there to test it at my chosen location. also its ok that I chose the bar I want to drill and where I want to drill on it.
I find that alittle odd if its fake aswell.
andymar
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:07:33 AM
My friends friend says it up to me what time it would be. The family ust want to unload it as he says. I could go to Leyte on Monday and check it out but heck,, I dont know anything about it.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:22:54 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 01, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
In Short, landowner in Leyte found 585 bars some years ago, marked with sumatra 99.99, 6 inches long, 2 wide, 1.5 high, weight 6.2kg.
Im not blind and knows there is a world of scams out there and here hehe. I seen some pictures of bars and a budha but pics isnt worth much.
There are no legitimate bars of gold marked Sumatra.
The true value of the gold may be the story itself, a testament to man’s ability to believe anything for a chance at such a vast fortune.
andymar
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:28:50 AM
So that means its a scam?
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:28:50 AM
So that means its a scam?
Typical
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=490166
andymar
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Ye that sounds more like the typical hoax.. However, what I dont get is if its fake, why let me have it tested before any cash?
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Ye that sounds more like the typical hoax.. However, what I dont get is if its fake, why let me have it tested before any cash?
You are being scammed...what else is there to understand?
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Ye that sounds more like the typical hoax.. However, what I dont get is if its fake, why let me have it tested before any cash?
it's easy actually
only buy the one(s) you test first.
Don't take for Granted the Rest are real Also.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."
Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: jeff of pa on Jan 02, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Ye that sounds more like the typical hoax.. However, what I dont get is if its fake, why let me have it tested before any cash?
it's easy actually
only buy the one(s) you test first.
Don't take for Granted the Rest are real Also.
Ye thats for sure, hence if it was real I think my eyes would fall out. Glad im not greedy nor stupid, still its exciting.
Anyways Im also sure this is more scam than real. Would be interesting to follow it up and bust some scammers.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: jeff of pa on Jan 02, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Ye that sounds more like the typical hoax.. However, what I dont get is if its fake, why let me have it tested before any cash?
it's easy actually
only buy the one(s) you test first.
Don't take for Granted the Rest are real Also.
Testing usually isn't allowed unless you bring some front money. That's usually when the mark gets rolled.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 02:54:07 PM
I will fly to the philippines to test and buy or put a bid the whole lot if it is real, my bank has a chain there so the transaction can be secure for the owner. give me the word and i'm on the way. And if it is not real, well i'll take a mini vacation. Send me the info.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: coon007 on Jan 02, 2010, 02:54:07 PM
I will fly to the philippines to test and buy or put a bid the whole lot if it is real, my bank has a chain there so the transaction can be secure for the owner. give me the word and i'm on the way. And if it is not real, well i'll take a mini vacation. Send me the info.
:::chortles:::
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: SWR on Jan 02, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: coon007 on Jan 02, 2010, 02:54:07 PM
I will fly to the philippines to test and buy or put a bid the whole lot if it is real, my bank has a chain there so the transaction can be secure for the owner. give me the word and i'm on the way. And if it is not real, well i'll take a mini vacation. Send me the info.
:::chortles:::
No need to laugh at me SWR
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: coon007 on Jan 02, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: SWR on Jan 02, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: coon007 on Jan 02, 2010, 02:54:07 PM
I will fly to the philippines to test and buy or put a bid the whole lot if it is real, my bank has a chain there so the transaction can be secure for the owner. give me the word and i'm on the way. And if it is not real, well i'll take a mini vacation. Send me the info.
:::chortles:::
No need to laugh at me SWR
Sorry, George. Enjoy your vacation
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
How the heck would one transport out 580+ bars in secrecy? 3600kg
Anyways, I will tell the middle guy that I will not bring any money there until testing is done and proven real. Lets see what the answer is. As I mentioned, I asked for 4 bars to test not only 1.
Another question. Sumatra bars only have 4 stars, right? not 5.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Another question. Sumatra bars only have 4 stars, right? not 5.
Well....since you asked.
Sumatra gold bars are fantasy bars of gold, created for the purpose of fraudulently revealing gullible people of their money. In easier terms, and loosely translated...it means there is no such thing as Sumatra bars.
Therefor, there is no relevancy if there are 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8 stars. It is however many stars the fraudster/scammer/evil-villain wants to put on the painted bar of lead....er, gold
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jan 02, 2010, 10:05:58 PM
ah I see,thx for the answer
No mater what this was, this forum is pretty interesting.
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #19 Posted May 06, 2011, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: SWR on Jan 02, 2010, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Another question. Sumatra bars only have 4 stars, right? not 5.
Well....since you asked.
Sumatra gold bars are fantasy bars of gold, created for the purpose of fraudulently revealing gullible people of their money. In easier terms, and loosely translated...it means there is no such thing as Sumatra bars.
Therefor, there is no relevancy if there are 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8 stars. It is however many stars the fraudster/scammer/evil-villain wants to put on the painted bar of lead....er, gold
is there any other proof to say it is fake? i need to convince someone this is a scam with concrete evidence.....
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #20 Posted May 06, 2011, 01:42:12 PM
Quote from: cacicu on May 06, 2011, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: SWR on Jan 02, 2010, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: andymar on Jan 02, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Another question. Sumatra bars only have 4 stars, right? not 5.
Well....since you asked.
Sumatra gold bars are fantasy bars of gold, created for the purpose of fraudulently revealing gullible people of their money. In easier terms, and loosely translated...it means there is no such thing as Sumatra bars.
Therefor, there is no relevancy if there are 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8 stars. It is however many stars the fraudster/scammer/evil-villain wants to put on the painted bar of lead....er, gold
is there any other proof to say it is fake? i need to convince someone this is a scam with concrete evidence.....
More important...is there any proof to say it is real? Of course...the answer to that is NO.
Look around....you'll only find these bars of "gold" on internet message boards. Not in the Real World
cacicu
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #21 Posted May 06, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
thank you for your reply...
unfortunately, he will not stop believing as the other party are really convincing or maybe have a spell on him...
if there are any sources specifically relating to SUMATRA gold bar philippines, pls gimme the link...
i have seen other photos of sumatra gold bar but not similar to the one he has....means he continue believing it is true....
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #22 Posted May 06, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: cacicu on May 06, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
thank you for your reply...
unfortunately, he will not stop believing as the other party are really convincing or maybe have a spell on him...
if there are any sources specifically relating to SUMATRA gold bar philippines, pls gimme the link...
i have seen other photos of sumatra gold bar but not similar to the one he has....means he continue believing it is true....
Are you serious? You fellows appear to be totally clueless about purchasing gold.
I say go ahead and make the purchase. Join the thousands of other Filipinos who have been swindled because of greed and the lack of research
cacicu
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #23 Posted May 10, 2011, 03:11:08 AM
yes! he is clueless indeed...n gullible...
the perfect combo for scammer victims....
i will continue my google research...
if you have any info on SUMATRA gold bars...point me in the right directions! some of the site i cannot see the photos even after registering...
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #24 Posted May 10, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: cacicu on May 10, 2011, 03:11:08 AM
yes! he is clueless indeed...n gullible...
the perfect combo for scammer victims....
i will continue my google research...
if you have any info on SUMATRA gold bars...point me in the right directions! some of the site i cannot see the photos even after registering...
There is no such thing as "Sumatra gold bars"...pointing you in any direction is futile.
Can't type it much clearer than that
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Aug 05, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
If SWR isn't clear enough for you, try googling scams such as this. No disrespect but it would save you & your friend plane fare hotel etc. to just throw your money to the wind. If you can't find someone with a ton of experience buying & testing let the deal go!
Testing even 4 bars out of 580 their choice which bars they bring!?!? The percentage of getting ripped off is astronomical.
Even if the bars are real, You can almost count on waking up with a headache in an alley.
I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Aug 05, 2011, 08:26:20 PM
This thread is lolz.
LMAO
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Aug 05, 2011, 09:32:47 PM
"Open up man! It's me Dave! I got the STUFF!!!" "Uhhh......Dave's not here, man!"
That's what I think of when I see SWR trying to talk sense into this/these fellas.....
Go out with what you have and find what you have not...
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Aug 05, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
for some reason, everyone in that country has a good deal going, but just dont have enough money, "hint, hint". Can I get in on this deal? This must be the real thing!
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Aug 06, 2011, 05:13:31 AM
Quote from: triplehooked on Aug 05, 2011, 09:32:47 PM
"Open up man! It's me Dave! I got the STUFF!!!" "Uhhh......Dave's not here, man!"
That's what I think of when I see SWR trying to talk sense into this/these fellas.....
LOL...
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Aug 06, 2011, 07:16:18 AM
In a way, it's sad. Some get the glint of easy riches in their eyes & ALL common sense & logic goes out the window.............
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Aug 13, 2011, 01:03:26 PM
I'm down here in Yuma Arizona , anyone intrested in a couple hundred acres of ocean front property lol
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Re: Gold bars from Leyte, Philippines
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